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  A Cult Tactic: Removing Guilt By Dehumanising Others

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
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  in the real world, very few parents would disown their own children simply because they read a magazine that told them to do it.

  very few people would forever completely ignore their own parents because an elder got up on a platform one day and announced that they no longer follow the same religion as you.. in the real world it just doesn't happen.

  and yet, for 8 million jehovah's witnesses it's very a normal part of their world to treat "other people" differently than they'd treat each other.

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  Bungi Bill

  Diogenesister,

  Very well summed up!
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  1975—Were You Affected By What 1975 Was Supposed to Bring?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  for years , we were told to wait until 1975!.

  the end was coming and we better be ready—or else!.

  were you around during this “momentous “ time??

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  Bungi Bill

  Hi Zeb,

  The bloody bastards thought they had that one covered, too.

  An extract from the Watchtower of 15th August 1968 ("Why are you looking forward to 1975?") stated:

  This is not the time to be toying with the words of Jesus that "concerning that day and hour nobody knows , neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father." (Matt. 24:36)

  Oh yeah, those that didn't swallow Crazy Fred's story about 1975 were indeed conspicuous by their silence during those years!
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  1975—Were You Affected By What 1975 Was Supposed to Bring?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for years , we were told to wait until 1975!.

  the end was coming and we better be ready—or else!.

  were you around during this “momentous “ time??

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  Bungi Bill

  it was 1975 that got the ball rolling

  That pretty much sums up my experience, too!
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  1975—Were You Affected By What 1975 Was Supposed to Bring?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for years , we were told to wait until 1975!.

  the end was coming and we better be ready—or else!.

  were you around during this “momentous “ time??

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  Bungi Bill

  Those who didn’t fall for Crazy Fred’s story about 1975 were certainly conspicuous by their silence during the years leading up to it. I don’t recall ever hearing anybody voice any doubts about the WTS official line on that date.
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  Daniel was wrong about the fate of the King of the North…..and so is the WT & others

  by deegee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the king of the north, that is, the king of the country geographically located north of judea/palestine was identified by the actual events of history as the seleucids of syria, in particular, the reign of antiochus iv epiphanes.

  the king of the south, that is, the king of the country geographically located south of judea/palestine was identified by the actual events of history as the ptolemies of egypt.

  daniel 11:40-45 prophesied that antiochus (king of the north) would make war once again against egypt, and would die on the coast of palestine “between the sea and the holy mountain”.

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  Bungi Bill

  In other words the number of wars fought between the "King of the North and King of the South", as described in the bible book of Daniel, differs significantly from the actual number that were fought between the Greek dynasties in Syria and Egypt.

  I guess that's what happens when you are dealing with a collection of Middle Eastern fairy tales!
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  Thirteen Counties Where Apostasy is a Capital Offense..

  by Room 215 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  you gotta wonder just how well jws are doing in "fulfilling their commission" in afghanistan, iran, malaysia, maldives, mauritania, nigeria, pakistan, qatar, saudi arabia, somalia, sudan, united arab emirates and yemen.

  https://www.indy100.com/article/the-countries-where-apostasy-is-punishable-by-death--z110j2uwxb.

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  Bungi Bill

  The Malaysian JW I knew reckoned you could always tell before entering a property whether or not a Muslim lived there. It sounded like the JWs in Malaysia go through the motions of carrying out a door-to-door campaign - but a very selective one!
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  Daniel was wrong about the fate of the King of the North…..and so is the WT & others

  by deegee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the king of the north, that is, the king of the country geographically located north of judea/palestine was identified by the actual events of history as the seleucids of syria, in particular, the reign of antiochus iv epiphanes.

  the king of the south, that is, the king of the country geographically located south of judea/palestine was identified by the actual events of history as the ptolemies of egypt.

  daniel 11:40-45 prophesied that antiochus (king of the north) would make war once again against egypt, and would die on the coast of palestine “between the sea and the holy mountain”.

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  Bungi Bill

  there was no third war

  But I thought there were a total of six wars fought between the Ptolemaic and Seleucid dynasties, not two? Collectively, these are known to historians as the "Syrian Wars", and took place between 274 and 168 BC.
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  Thirteen Counties Where Apostasy is a Capital Offense..

  by Room 215 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  you gotta wonder just how well jws are doing in "fulfilling their commission" in afghanistan, iran, malaysia, maldives, mauritania, nigeria, pakistan, qatar, saudi arabia, somalia, sudan, united arab emirates and yemen.

  https://www.indy100.com/article/the-countries-where-apostasy-is-punishable-by-death--z110j2uwxb.

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  Bungi Bill

  A JW from Malaysia once told me that were they to even attempt to witness to just one Muslim person, the JWs would be banned from that country.

  Instead, the Malaysian JWs focus on the Buddhist, Hindu and Christian elements of the population. And, as others here have correctly guessed, most of the "converts" have come from the Christian population.

  (The majority of Malaysia's population is made up of the indigenous Malays, who are Muslim by religion. Chinese make up a large minority, most of whom are Buddhists. The other principal group are those whose ancestors came from what was then British India - the modern day countries of India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. Their religions are Hinduism, Islam - and to a lesser extent, Christianity).
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  When All Else FAILS Protest and Cry When You Don’t Get Your Way

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  do these democrats really think that if they protest and wail about anything they don’t like , that policies will change ?

  they are really embarrassing themselves..

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  Bungi Bill

  It is all to easy to get drawn into the use of loaded language with this one.

  If they agree with you, they are merely just “protesting.” Every time!

  However, those not in agreement with you are always “whining”, “crying”, “bawling” cry-babies.

  Oh yeah!
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  Just a thought

  by moley in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just a hypothetical question.

  if the society was right and armageddon came a knocking would you want to live in a society run by the org and bully elders.. would rather die at armageddon.

  i would.

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  Bungi Bill

  This reminds me of the Canadian poet Robert Service, and his poem Song of the Wage Slave; the opening lines of which read:

  "When the long, long day is over, and the Big Boss gives me my pay,
  

  I hope that it won't be hell-fire, as some of the parsons say.
  

  And I hope that it won't be heaven, with some of the parsons I've met —"